Kirk Franklin talks about his son's leak of a heated fight with Tamron Hall.
He says that having his son record their conversation was a big surprise to him, but he doesn't mind.
It's a new day, but there's no sunshine in Kirk Franklin's song "I Smile." It's not going to happen right now, at least. Until he and his son, Kerrion, truly get back together.
He released the audio of a heated argument between himself and the gospel star on Instagram over the weekend. Franklin's oldest son did this. Grammy Award-winning artist: "Get your skinny motherfu**in a**" and "before I put my foot in your a**" and "I will break your neck, ni**a, don't you ever disrespect me! I will break your neck!" His 32-year-old son, on the other hand, is heard disagreeing and saying, "I dare," before finally saying, "Shut the f**k up! As his father yells on the phone, his son says, "I'm grown."
For his Instagram post, Kerrion wrote, "So this is why I'm done." No father should talk to their kids like this. In case I ever have problems, it's because of the way I deal with things behind closed doors. I don't want to say sorry. I don't want to show any compassion. I don't want to try. I don't even know where my family lives. I don't think I'll ever be able to be alone with my father. In my mind, I didn't want to do this.
I probably won't release the whole recording because I think this is embarrassing for me to deal with. I don't care what other people think. I pray that my dad can get over his deep hatred for me, no matter what. Not at all. He doesn't make me feel safe at all. This recording isn't from 2018, just to be clear. "I'm going to learn from this and make beautiful art."
Soon after the audio was leaked, Franklin, 51, made a public apology to his fans and followers for swearing and getting angry because he felt "extremely disrespected." Many people have agreed with Kerrion and said that a son should never be verbally abused by their parent. There were some people who did not think Franklin should apologise for something that was very personal and private.
As a coincidence, Franklin was going to be on the Tamron Hall Show at the same time as the gospel music special, so he did a special interview. Kirk and his wife, Tammy, talked about how Kirk and his son have been fighting for years, how they've tried to get help through counseling and therapy as a family, and how he's not going to stop trying to help his son.
It can get a little tense and frustrated when Franklin and Hall are trying to help him. Franklin said that now that he's about to be 33 as a grown man, the relationship can get a little agitated and frustrated. However, I won't give up. Having a father was hard for me. I don't want him to feel that way. In other words, even though it gets tense and tight at times, when he calls from time to time, I will answer even though I expect it to sometimes kind of go off the rails. What if that call is the one that changes everything? So I don't know and I don't want to stop.
A second posting of audio was made by Kerrion. In the caption of the post, the aspiring artist says that he was beaten and robbed by his father. It was clear that Franklin was very fond of his son. Franklin also said that he is sure that there has never been "anything physical that he has been concerned about" or any other kind of abuse by his parents before.
Asked about his son Kerrion, Franklin said that even though he respects him, they aren't the same level of person.
"Yes, I think Kerrion is good." I'm not as good as Kerrion, but I'm still pretty good. "I'm not his equal, I'm his father," he said. It's also hard for you to talk to me, especially about things like things that you say that you want from me, if you act like you don't want to listen. There have been times when Kerrion and I haven't talked for a year or two because we've been busy.
Since then, Kerrion has said that if his father won't tell the truth, "Let me live and let it go. If my father won't tell the truth, let me live and let it go." Right now, I'm 33. Nobody helps me with money. I've been on my own since I was 18. He got the recordings I didn't record him without him knowing that I'm always recording. He still talks to me in a way that makes me want to fight back too often. Not in front of pastors and counselors, but not in front of them either The day has come and gone, so it's time for a new start.
When you watch the full interview, Franklin's wife also talks about how the tension between her husband and step-song has affected them and their family, too. A person who is not named Kerrion hasn't told his side of the story yet.